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will name them. jesse watters in hawaii, everybody. find out about president obama's deep connections to that state. a tropical watters world up ahead. bill bill impact segment tonight, the 2012 ebenezer awards are given out by the beckett fund for religious liberty which tracks attacks on christmas which don't exist according to jon stewart. in the past beach ebenezer award for banning a christmas turkey give away. commissioner in cocoa mow got ebenezer for replacing a kresh with lock necessary monster. and city manager of eugene, oregon got an award for banning christmas trees in any public space out there. let's start up with the -- by the way it's ebb feeser scrooge based on christmas carol by charles dickens. most people know that but i wanted to clarify. >> first runner is santa monica after having nativity scene on display for 60 years. they put the scene in moth balls and took it away. >> bill: they said you could do real life people or something we covered this briefly. an atheist attacked the display. >> yes. >> the atheist, the courts have ruled that you can have these thin
as investors react to the impending fiscal cliff. and right now president obama leaving for hawaii without a deal. and this is a live look at joint base andrews right now. both the president and house speaker john boehner commenting just in the little while on any possibility, any chances of reaching a deal on capitol hill. stay close. this holiday, share everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. shareable data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. hurry in for a droid razr m by motorola for $49.99. but they have to use special care in keeping the denture clean. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply. polident is designed to clean dentures daily. its unique micro-clean formula kills 99.9% of odor causing bacteria and helps dissolve stains, cleaning in a better way than brushing with toothpaste. that's why i recommend using polident. [ male announcer ] polident. cleaner, fresher, brighter every day. [ male announcer ] polident. nfc
to those people attack christmas this year. we will name them. jesse watters in hawaii, everybody. find out about president obama's deep connections to that state. a tropical watters world up ahead. ghtful ♪ ♪ but the fire is so delightful ♪ nothing melts away the cold like a hot, delicious bowl of chicken noodle soup from campbell's. ♪ let it snow, let it snow can i still ship a gift in time r christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. bill bill impact segment tonight, the 2012 ebenezer awards are given out by the beckett fund for religious liberty which tracks attacks on christmas which don't exist according to jon stewart. in the past beach ebenezer award for banning a christmas turkey give away. commissioner in cocoa mow got ebenezer for replacing a kresh with lock necessary monster. and city manager of eugene, oregon got an award for banning christmas trees in any public space out there. let's start up with the -- by the way it's ebb feeser scr
and hawaii. that's he humility he showed his entire life. there was no staff there just the two of us. we talked for an hour. i would always remember -- having passed away yesterday, it will be imbedded in my mind. as we left, we both thought about fact we had not been able to sit down and talk like that enough. he professed at that time -- his words -- how lucky he has been his whole life. he said i got at emphysema now. i said, not from smoking. he said, i learn to smoke in the war as a boy. he smoked from 1944 to 1967. he told me he had lung cancer. but they were wrong. they took part of his lung out. he talked about how lucky he had been with surviving what he fought with lung can certification but how lucky he had been his while life, for example, the war. i'm sure people would not reflect on his massive injuries as being lucky. butth but he considered he was lucky to have lived. he had been called upon with three other people, three other soldiers, to cross a river in the dark of night, to find out what was going on, on the other side of the river, and he and his three companions, i
in hawaii, heading back now to washington. that will happen tonight to work on the fiscal cliff deal. >> the looming fiscal cliff is forcing president obama to cut short his christmas vacation. >> president obama is cutting short his christmas vacation. he is leaving hawaii tonight so that he can be back in washington when congress reconvenes tomorrow. >> laura: so we should believe that by leaving his island enclave that the president was making some big sacrifice for the country? i'm thinking washington, crossing the delaware on a bitter christmas night 1776 before going on to defeat the british in two major battles, that's sacrifice. i, for one, never understood how in good conscious any of these politicians would think about leaving town with so much riding on this cliff hanger? shouldn't they get their work done before they leave town for a break? that's what's expected for most working americans but then again washington politicians have rules of their own. people whose salaries that we pay are called public servants. meaning they verve us. not the other way around. we don't wo
. >> senator daniel of hawaii given a rare honor of lying in state in the capitol rue tun da today. he died sunday in an area hospital. he's the second longest serving senator in u.s. history. after the arrival at the capital, congressional leaders and vice president biden spoke at a memorial for senator inouye. [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] [background sounds] >>> let us pray. gracious god, sovereign lord of history, thank you for the exemplary impact of senator daniel ken inouye on our national history. lord, we're grateful for the excellence that distinguished his significant career, for the quiet grace and dignity with which he represented the ahoha state and gift of ennernment that enabled him to serve you faithfully for the good of america.
long-time hawaii senator daniel inouye, who died yesterday. we've got all that news ahead. >>> but we begin tonight with something that is an important story in its own terms. but for those of us at msnbc and nbc news, it is also an incredibly emotional thing. and i can tell you, it ends with good news. it ends with this news, which i can say personally was greeted by all of us as the best news in the world when we saw it. it's nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel, looking a little disheveled, a little less groomed than usual, but as you can see, looking like himself. on the left this is ghazi balkiz and john klooister, a long-time nbc news photographer. these three men were able to appear live on the "today" show, fife days after being kidnapped and held in captivity in syria. just hours before this shot of them this morning, they were freed by a syrian rebel group who rescued them from an unknown group that had taken them and that had held them for five, long, horrible days. the rebel group not only rescued these three, they then took responsibility for driving them to th
say he'll inherit these problems. >> the president is going away for christmas. he's going to hawaii for 20 something days. where am i going to be? where are my neighbors going to be? we're not going to have a place called home. where is the help? >> what's holding us back right now is a lot of stuff that's going on in this town. >> after the election of jimmy carter, he went to washington, d.c. and came back home with some bacon. >> that's right. >> that's what you do. >> the fact is this president basically i don't think wants to work with congress. >> we do not have a taxation problem. we've got a wildly out of control spending problem. >> i'll be here, and i'll be available any moment. >> we believe that despite obvious resistance to what has to be the framework of a deal here, that progress is being made. >> all of this is smoke and mirrors. all of this deficit reduction stuff, there isn't any. there aren't any spending cuts. >> greta: while democrats and republicans fight it out, the nation is waiting and waiting and waiting and suffering as they wait. former new york city mayo
, people of hawaii, and all americans in paying final respects to an american patriot and hero. senator ioway was one -- inouye was one of the deluxe senators to ever walk the hallowed halls of this great building. he leaves behind a legacy of public leadership and private kindness that will not be forgotten as long as these walls stand, as long as histories are written. it's fitting he should lie in state beneath the enduring symbol of our democracy, the dome of the capitol. and it's proper he should rest upon the lincoln platform upon which abram ham lincoln, president john f. kennedy, rosa parks, and 26 more of this nation's luminaries have lane in state. -- layne in state. dan inouye was an institution and deserves to spend at least another day in this beautiful building in which he dedicated his life. as the second longest serving senator in our history, dan inouye represented our 50th state from the first day it was admitted to the union. but senator inouye's tradition of service began long before he came to the united states senate . he was just a boy when he heard the war planes
. >> gregg: will be the president be working on these issues during his christmas holiday in hawaii or is it golf and r&r and spending time with the kids? >> mostly r&r but on friday the president acknowledged there might not be time for any grand bargain. he scaled back for expectations for the rest of the year. one democrat said a larger deal is not impossible. >> we what we ought to do is take speaker's last offer, president's last offer and split the difference. that would be a package of about $2.6 trillion. you couple that with the $1.1 trillion that has already been done, that would be close to the $4 trillion we needed to stabilize the debt and begin to bring it down. >> reporter: to do that the president is demanding wealthy pay higher taxes. >> gregg: steve, thanks. >> heather: gregg, president obama is taking a break from the stress of fiscal cliff negotiations spending the holiday in hawaii. there is also a somber moment on his schedule. president and first lady attending a memorial service for daniel i inouye. >> he is leaving the fiscal cliff worries back home. we are
>> bob: yesterday, senator from hawaii, excellent man who died and yesterday he was lying in state. at the capital. there is a picture, poignant one of bob dole, the former senator from kansas. a great man. who was standing -- do we have the picture of dole? standing at the casket, saluting. they are two great americans. it wish him -- i wish him a great trip to heaven and bob dole, a wonderful human being. >> kimberly: that's it for us at "the five." set the dvr for the christmas special monday at 5:00 p.m. eastern. for all of us travelling home for the holiday. have a great trip. good night, everyone. >>> this is a fox news alert. i'm john roberts in for bret baier this friday evening. president obama came out moments ago to address the fiscal cliff. saying he still thinks a deal could happen. but that now is not the time for self-inflicted wounds. this is after house speaker alternate way out didn't make it to a vote in the house. we have fox team coverage. ed henry focuses on a tale of two white houses with messaging. but first, mike emanuel looks at where the republican goes f
: president obama making remarks at funeral for former late hawaii senator daniel inouye. >> he would remain my senator until i left hawaii for college. now even though, even though my mother and grandparents took great pride that they had voted for him, i confessed that i wasn't paying much attention to the united states senate at the age of 4 or 5 or 6. it wasn't until i was 11 years old that i recall even learning what a u.s. senator was or, it registering at least t was during my summer vacation with my family. my first trip to what shows of us in hawaii call the mainland. so we flew over the ocean and with my mother and my grandmother and my sister who at the time was two, we traveled around the country. it's a big trip. we went to seattle and we went to disneyland, which was most important. we traveled to kansas where my grandmother's family was from and went to chicago and went to yellowstone. and we took greyhound buses most of the time and we rented cars and we would stay at local motels or howard johnson's. and if there was a pool at one of these motels, even if it was just tiny, i
. >>> december 28th will be the day the democratic party of hawaii decides who will fill their senate seat. but this morning we have more details on what the late senator himself wanted to see happen. in a just-released tlee ed lett hawaii's governor, inouye wrote, i respectfully request that u.s. representative colleen hanabusa succeed me and continue the work together with mazie on behalf of hawaii in the u.s. senate. i have no doubt that she will represent hawaii with the same fervor and commitment that i brought to the senate chamber since 1962. i hope you will grant me my last wish. he will lie in state in the capitol rotunda today. we're expecting his remains to arrive any minute now right there on the capitol. we'll bring that to you live later this hour. - more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the p
in hawaii where the president is spending the christmas holiday. brianna, the president maybe a little too optimistic that a deal can be reached? aloha, by the way. >> he did say last night that he is a hopeless optimist that something can get done, but what we know, it's not going to be that big package, obviously of deficit reduction as well as dealing with these tax hikes that are set to kick in. that's not what's going to be happening, instead, he's pressing for something smaller just to a deal with stopping those tax hikes from kicking in for americans making $250,000 per year or less. and also trying to make sure that unemployment benefits are extended. listen to what president obama said last night and also listen to what some of the house republican resistance from speaker boehner to his sort of short-term plan here. >> in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans, and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction.
and the president to get their act together. the president took a red eye flight back from hawaii. why did congress and the president go on raication at all. >> yeah, we all go to work. >> there is nothing on the table . kelley. >> a lot of people feel they are left in the lurch by the president and congress. and they didn't get the job done . here's what we are facing. we are teetering on the edge of the fiscal cliff. there are many members in congress who disaagree raising of tax. the president had gone up to $400,000 when house speaker boehner would raise the tax hikes . but the sticking point is enments and spending. >> clayton: the republicans saying that the president and democrats not forth coming enough on entitlements. here's what will unfold in a few short days as we break this down to you. >> put your seat belts on, people. >> clayton: tax rates will hit these numbers and you go up to 120,000 . you will see 31 percent up to 36 percent . in these tax rates as they climb up. >> here's the bottom line. average tax rate of 2,000 to $4000. it is an additional 13,944 . millionaire's status whi
honolulu, hawaii where the president and first lady have just arrived. hundreds of hawaiians started gathering saturday to welcome the senator home and pay respects. inouye was a recipient for the medal of honor for his braver. kristen welker joins me now from honolulu. a warm christmas, i see. >> reporter: yes indeed. it is lovely here. >> the president is on christmas vacation and so is congress. that doesn't mean they don't have work to do as the fiscal cliff looms. i take it this is a working vacation. >> reporter: white house officials have described this as a working vacation and talks are going on behind the scenes between white house staffers and hill staffers. the reality is the bulk of this probably won't get done until after christmas when lawmakers are expected to resume negotiations. there is a lot of frustration especially among senior members in both parties in part because president obama, house speaker john boehner seem so close to getting a deal done. they were really close on taxes and entitlement reform. we saw that last week house speaker john boehner couldn't ge
spoke at the white house friday before leaving for hawaii where he is now. but at the same time the president acknowledging there might not be time for any kind of a grand bargain. he scaled back his goals and pushing not for the big deal, but for middle class tax cut and extended benefits. a larger deal wouldn't be that hard to reach. >> what we ought to do is take speaker boehner's last offer, the president's last offer and split the difference. that would be a package of about $2.6 trillion. you couple that with the 1.1 trillion that will be done. that would be close to the $4 trillion needed to stabilize the debt and to begin to bring it down. >> and if no action is taken by the end of the year taxes go up for everybody. back to you, eric. >> we have to see. the clock is ticking. >> tick, tick, tick. more on the fiscal cliff negotiations. i am joined by congressman peter king from new york who is involved. congressman, great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> happy holidays. >> happy birthday. >> have i to ask you, what are you doing home when we are approaching the f
unlikely. he took off for hawaii and landed with his family for a shorter than usual christmas break. he said he is it a hopeless optmist. he is scaling back and pushing for a tax cut for the middle class and calling for compromise. it can only pass from democrats and republicans and no one gets 100 percent of what they want. everyone has to give a bit in a sensible way. we move forward together or not at all. in addition to making bush era tax cuts permanent for the middle class. let president want to preserve unemployment benefits if congress doesn't act. that know amount to an achievable goal and something that can get dun before the end of the year. >> steve, thank you for that. and now turning to the scathing report against the state department. it is fueling out a debate over what they call the grossly inadquate security at the benghazi compound. that attack led to the death of four americans including buss buss stevens. the state department said mistakes were made and promising to fix security conscience. lawmakers are demanding worries from secretary of state clinton who has yet
, ms. hanabusa of hawaii, would like to take in memory of the extraordinary senator. i had the pleasure of working with him in the mid 1990's when i was the deputy secretary of the department of interior, we were working on the native hawaiian lands issues. he was a remarkable individual, one that not only understood the intricacies of that very complex situation, but also had enormous passion for the native hawaiians. and so tonight i yield whatever time she might want to take to our colleague from the great state of washington -- hawaii. ms. hanabusa: thank you very much to the gentleman from california. i'm here to honor a state which is unique and as special as the person i honor. the person i rise to honor is daniel k. inouye. a person who cannot be described by a single adjective. a person whose accomplishments would cause you to pause and say, is this one person? is this one man? a person was awarded the greatest honor anyone who serves in the military can achieve, the congressional medal of honor. but it was an honor about 55 years late. from a country that questioned his loyalt
is hawaii. the house is out of session. the senate is adjourned. they are going to coming back on the 27th. that gives them five days. they have been talking about this fiscal cliff for months. last five days and they have to involves more than a trillion dollars and billions of dollars in tax hikes. how can they get it done? they won't. president on friday gave the all clear for members not to do a big package. he said, look, let's do a stopgap. in other words, let's stop everyone from having their taxes go up and do something smaller so on january 1st it's not just this big looming.... >> does that mean the president could offer extend the tax rates for six months and begin negotiating all over again beginning in january, obviously that would be the usual procrastination in washington, is that what you are talking about here? >> i think what will happen, the president will look for ways to gain the most leverage for himself. the conventional wisdom, democrats really gain power if january 1st comes along and everybody's taxes goes up. it brings revenues in the treasury and raises rates on
hawaii moment." and when i said that the president laughed very loudly and he caught himself back and he told this lovely story there meant meant that when things seemed to be going to hell in a hand basket he and rahm would sit in the oval office and think "what wild we rather be doing?" and obama said "we'd rather that v a t-shirt shop in hawaii selling t-shirts" then he paused for a second and said "maybe smoothies, too." and that's what we used to chat about. and rahm was saying maybe he just was thinking about the smoothies on hawaii. >> rose: that's an interesting detail about that. i saw rahm emanuel interviewed and i didn't get this from him yesterday. it's the idea that he still plays, a role. he's still connected to rahm emanuel and gives him advice when asks and asks him advice often. >> i think that would be smart. >> rose: let me talk toou, please, about nels mandela. you were his friend. he's 94 years old. he clearly has not been well: >> he's not well, charlie, he stopped having any kind of public events a couple years ago. he -- you know, a man who -- so much confidence f
? >> the president is planning to go to hawaii with his family. the family is going to be heading there soon and he isn't getting on a plane any time soon. he could stay all through weekend. if possible he could wait through monday and eric cantor threatened that today. he said "we might stay here all weekend." the senate is intending to come back next thursday and deal with it then. >> the critical point here is will john baner be willing to bring up a bill in the house that's a compromise that may require more democratic votes than republican votes? that is anathema to him, but it may be the only way out of thiss me. >> brown: norm ornstein, christina bellantoni, thanks so much. >> suarez: still to come on the "newshour": targeting pakistan's polio eradication workers; state department security failures; the pros and cons of saving versus spending and north dakota's senator elect. but first, the other news of the day. here's hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: amid the fiscal cliff fight, members of the house and senate paid final respects today to the late senator daniel inouye. the hawaii democra
for that. it is an honor given to very few americans. long time senator daniel inouye of hawaii lying in state in the capitol rotunda. he died on monday at the age of 88. inouye represented hawaii in washington since it became a state back in 1959, so his half century tenure makes him the second longest serving senator in history. harry reid paying respects. >> although senator inouye was a progressive democrat, he put his country first and party second. dan was a vibrant and vital presence in the senate and in death will remain a legend. his last words on earth, aloha. it is with a heavy heart that i and we bit alloy ha, goodbye, i love you, to a friend and legend of the senate, daniel kent inouye. >> as a japanese-american soldier he lost his right arm and received the medal of honor. only 31 people have lane in the capitol rotunda. the last was gerald ford about six years ago. >> as the bin laden movie hits theaters -- >> he is in the inner circle -- >> some are livid over a scene about torture. plus, a case so shocking it pushed president obama to make a phone call. inside an army
very good so far. we know that the president obama, on the way back from hawaii, worked the phones a bit, talking to the top four congressional leaders. speaker boehner, nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid. earlier today, the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with the republicans in congress. >> nothing can move forward unless speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are willing to come up with a bipartisan plan to participate. speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate. we have not heard a word since neither mcconnell. nothing has happened. >> i should note that senator reid was due for a news conference later this afternoon. that has since been canceled. perhaps the senate majority leader has decided to do his talking behind closed doors and hammer out a deal. greg: filled with metaphors, no doubt. what a republican saying about the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations? reporter: they have been pretty quiet so far. we know the speaker of the house and the republican leadership team in the house is due for a conference call with members that are still back in their
complications on monday, at age 88. he will be returned home to hawaii tomorrow, and a public service will be held at the national memorial cemetery of the pacific on sunday, before he is laid to rest in his home state. the service is about one hour and 45 minutes. >> i am resurrection, and i am light, says the lord. whoever has faith in the show have life, though he dies. everyone who has life and has committed himself to me in faith shall not die forever. as for me, i know that my redeemer lives, and that of the last you will stand upon the earth. after my awaking, he will raise me up. and in my body, i shall see god. my eyes shall behold him who is my friend and not a stranger. ford none of us has life in themself, and nunn becomes his own master when we die. for if we have life, we are alive in the lord, and if we die, we die in the lord. so then whether we live or die, we are the lord's possession. happy from now on are those who die in the lord. so it is said of the spirit, for the rest from their labors. >> as dean of washington national cathedral, on behalf of the bishop, i we
special. take a look at some of these pictures. this is long time senator daniel inouye of hawaii. it's really remarkable to watch this. this is an honor given to very, very few americans. inouye represented the 50th state in washington since hawaii became a state back in 1959. you think he was the longest serving senator in u.s. history, he ended up being the second longest serving senator in u.s. history. and if you don't know this about the senator, he was a japanese-american soldier during world war ii. senator inouye lost his right arm in italy and received the medal of honor for his service. daniel inouye died on monday at walter reed military medical center. he was 88 years old. and i want you to watch these pictures. >>> i have some news just into cnn about the attorney general eric holder. we are finding out now the attorney general is set to head to newtown, connecticut, today after meeting with vice president joe biden at 1:00. but don't expect to see him. this is not a public event. the attorney general has scheduled to apparently meet with some of the law enforcement offi
are is likely to be here in town and the president has said that he's not going to go on his trip to hawaii, likely as long as he has somebody to negotiate with. we'll see what happens with this weekend. it doesn't sound like at least the key players are going anywhere. >> we'll see if there will be a christmas miracle. that would be nice, wouldn't it? >>> elsewhere on capitol hill, top state officials are promising congress that they will improve security at diplomatic posts around the world, in some cases by the end of the year. hearings are being held today on the deadly of the attack on benghazi, libya. arguing whether more money would help keep american diplomats safe. >> if the state department intends to blame it is long string of failures on inadequate funding, then perhaps it should take a closer look at the money that is being lavished on global climate change, culinary diplomacy programs and other favored projects. in money could have been used for providing diplomatic security, including hiring additional personnel and providing them with adequate equipment and training. >> we'r
of the coffin carrying hawaii senator daniel inouye as it is carried into the capitol where he will lie in state. a great honor for a man who was the original congressman when hawaii was made a state and spent all of the rest of those years serving in washington. we'll be right back. rol, how does it work? you just he to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. martha: we start with this fox news alert. a memorial service for the late u.s. senator daniel inouye is beginning inside the rotunda of the u.s. capitol building right now. the beloved senator from hawaii lying in state, a great honor bestowed on this gentleman who was beloved by so many on capitol hill. you have congressional leaders and vice president biden who will make remarks and lay wreaths at the senator's casket. he was a world war ii veteran, 17-years-old when pearl harbor was bombed. the first american japanese representative on capitol hill, breaking t
can't imagine their consciences. >> reporter: of course president obama has left hawaii. he is heading back to washington from his family vacation. we learned from the white house that the president had made calls to the top four congressional leaders mcconnell and boehner on the republican side, pelosi and reid on the democratic side. we'll see what the president has in mind when he touches down back in washington a little later this morning, harris. harris: mike you mentioned it. i'm mentioning it too. it is coming into the newsroom from senator mcconnell's spokesperson and just wondering what the republicans say they want. they want to review legislation and make decisions how best to proceed. they're waiting for now the white house to make the next move. >> reporter: there is definitely a game of chicken going on where the senate democrats are saying, well we need to know from mcconnell what he is willing to do. mcconnell is saying i will not rubberstamp a plan i haven't seen so you need to lay out a plan. we know from speaker boehner's spokesman he is in ohio. he will let us know
at a sandwich shop and told friends he would move to hawaii which was a lifelong dream but he missed his flight. some say he was upset about a recent breakup with his girlfriend. some say he was evicted from a place living in june an bounced around from house to house. on facebook paege he liked shooting and an adrenaline junkie. his mother issued a statement saying she was shocked by what happened. there is word she had been estranged from jacob for the last several years because of his drug use. no clear picture exactly why he went on this shooting spree. a lot of descriptions of him as being, a lot of them being a normal kid. alisyn? alisyn: always so mystifying after these things. dan, thanks for the update. bill: we're getting reaction trot mall shooter's family. a long-time friend of jacob roberts family came out with a statement from the his mother saying the family is blind-sided by this. >> tammy wishes to express her shot and grief of the events at clackamas town center on tuesday. she has no understanding or explanation for her son's behavior. bill: roberts roommates and neighbors sa
is going to go into recess and go to hawaii, i think it's a bad message for the economy. we should have dealt with this months ago. the house passed. we did the responsible thing, we passed a bill in august to keep all the tax rates even. the country has to remember that the house has acted it's only the united states senate and the president that have not come together. bill: we'll see if we see you both on the 26th of december, some time that week. thank you for your time. martha: what are the consequences this lawmakers do not reach a deal in time? are we on our way as some warn to becoming greece? doug mcelway is live ph washington. there are nice things about greece that you won't mind emulating, but your budget, their economy not one of them. >> the parthanon a nice thing to see when you go to athens. when ron paul was running he got huge applause when he said a government that continues to deval its currency destroys the middle class. >> they don't have the money, they run out of borrowing power, guess what they do. they start printing money. >> reporter: the federal reserve has
and acting tough when he was just away for week in hawaii. everyone deserves a nice christmas holiday but not when we have serious issues that need to be addressed. i don't think the president has led on this. the american people are also partly to blame here. there was an election and he left in place everything the same. the house is the same. senate is basically the same. you voted for basically more of the same. american people don't escape blame either. >> gregg: van hollen basically has the same argument, he has been out for 12 days and vanhollen, boehner would not touk talk to him. i'm not sure i buy that. if it does go to the fiscal cliff and we go over it, sequestration would cut only $109 billion next year. that is actually not a lot in a budget of almost four trillion, is it? >> it's not a lot of the total number, half of that goes to defense which are own admirals and generals have said and secretary of defense would be devastating. this comes on top of -- $50 billion in one year to the defense. and it doesn't touch at all medicare and the other entitlement programs. >> gr
have attacked the pearl harbor hawaii from the air. i repeat, president roosevelt says that the japanese have attacked pearl harbor in hawaii from the air. >> flashback this day in 1941, a day that will live in infamy. the most amazing thing, when you go to visit the arizona site is the oil that still sits on top of the water. all right. maggie, i don't want to use the phrase ptsd lightly. so i apologize to those who will criticize me for doing that but getting the romney e-mail, i thought, we missed hawkinggail, all of this back and forth. they decided to tell us about the numbers. i have a theory why. they know that the first report was going to show them with a lot of money and they were trying to explain it? >> i think that's true. this is also one of the areas that they are genuinely proud of on this campaign. so i think that's why they were highlighting it. i had the same reaction on twitter last night as you did. what they didn't get into was debt. >> what they still have to pay off. >> it's not just that, though. there's also debt in terms of what they borrowed
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